On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Chuck Lugar <c.lugar@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes it has been around before but fire drills are recurrent too. The advice it contains is still valid. Oh, and Bayer is mentioned because the crystal form is from their research. Source may make it suspect, but it doesn’t in validated the message.
Chuck,
Either you missed the Lahey Clinic rep's statement ".. contains some information that is inaccurate and potentially harmful." or we are just going to not be on the same page about this. I've been on an 81mg/day regimen for decades and when I started I already believed aspirin is a wonder drug.
But I don't think that something that contains mostly good stuff but some that's inaccurate and potentially harmful matches a doctor visit and/or a few minutes with the reference given in the discussion following the article I pointed to or with these sources MedlinePlus, WebMD, PubMed, CardioSmart. Unless we've gone to Obamacare at its worst.
Maybe people don't know how to copy a URL and use it in an email to friends.
Here's another reference that might be good to share: Mayo Clinic on heart attacks at night.
Just checked. Snopes, too, has weighed in on this one: Snopes on Aspirin and Heart Attacks.
(Note the comment about Bayer's aspirin crystals. And if they're wrong about that and told so, I'd expect that the reference to the article will show an update.)
It's not very hard to include a reference in an email. Main thing is to select the whole thing by [multi]clicking and then use keyboard copy -- rather than trying to type the whole thing somewhere by hand. At that point you can just paste the ugly sucker into your email if you have yet to learn how to put it under something more readable.
Anyway, gotta go. Keep up the great funny, risque, anecdotal, emails but the 'fact'-filled ones with no references --
maybe not so much!
Regards,
-Fred
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Yes it has been around before but fire drills are recurrent too. The advice it contains is still valid. Oh, and Bayer is mentioned because the crystal form is from their research. Source may make it suspect, but it doesn’t in validated the message. If aspirin were discovered today, it would be $50.00 a tablet or more.
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Subject: Re: Fw: Good info to keep
The mention of a specific brand, Bayer, of acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) and several other things about this message set off my crap detector.
Sure enough, a little poking around found the following here . From the Mayo Clinic's website, no less.
The comments include a URL to the Mayo Clinic's advice on the subject and a Clinic employee's statement
"In general, we do not recommend obtaining advice on medical treatment from chain mailings,especially when they are of uncertain origin."
It looks like this thing has been rattling around the internet for more than two years.
-Fred
Posted on February 28, 2010 by Lee Aase
We have been informed of a recently circulated email regarding the use of aspirin, which included mention of Dr. Virend Somers and of Mayo Clinic. Neither Dr. Somers nor Mayo Clinic contributed to this email, which contains some information that is inaccurate and potentially harmful. We recommend that you speak with your physician if you have specific questions.
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Chuck Lugar <c.lugar@comcast.net> wrote:
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Subject: FW: Good info to keep
From: DELDEANNA@aol.com [mailto:DELDEANNA@aol.com]
Sent: Friday,
July 06, 2012 7:54 PM
To: Kensus1952@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Good
info to keep
Mayo Clinic On Aspirin
Dr.
Virend Somers, is a Cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic,
who
is lead author of the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of
the
Journal of the American College of
Cardiology.
Most heart attacks occur in the day,
generally
between 6 A.M. and noon. Having one during the
night, when
the heart should be most at rest, means
that
something unusual happened. Somers and his colleagues
have been
working for a decade to show that sleep apnea is
to blame.
1.
If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day,
take it at
night.
The reason: Aspirin has a 24-hour "half-life";
therefore,
if most heart attacks happen in the
wee hours of the morning,
the
Aspirin would be strongest in your system.
2.
FYI,
Aspirin lasts a really long time in your medicine
chest
for years, (when it gets old, it smells like
vinegar).
Please read on.
Something that
we can do to help ourselves - nice to know.
Bayer is
making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue.
They
work much faster than the tablets.
Why keep Aspirin by your
bedside? It's about Heart Attacks -
There are other
symptoms of a heart attack, besides the
pain on the left
arm. One must also be aware of an intense
pain on the
chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating;
however,
these symptoms may also occur less frequently.
Note:
There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack.
The
majority of people (about 60%) who had
a heart attack
during their sleep did not wake up.
However, if it occurs, the
chest pain may wake you up from
your deep sleep.
If
that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth
and
swallow them with a bit of water.
Afterwards:
-
Call 911.
- Phone a neighbor or a family member who lives
very close by.
- Say "heart attack!"
-
Say that you have taken 2 Aspirins.
Take a seat on a chair
or sofa
near the front door, and wait for their arrival
and
...DO
NOT LIE DOWN!
A
Cardiologist has stated that if each person after
receiving
this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one
life
could be saved!
I
have already shared this information. What about you?
Do
forward this message. It may save lives!