Re: Good info to keep





Frederick N. Chase


Jul 9

to Chuck





On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Chuck Lugar <c.lugar@comcast.net> wrote:

Yes it has been around before but fire drills are recurrent too. The advice it contains is still valid. Oh, and Bayer is mentioned because the crystal form is from their research. Source may make it suspect, but it doesn’t in validated the message.


Chuck,

Either you missed the Lahey Clinic rep's statement ".. contains some information that is inaccurate and potentially harmful." or we are just going to not be on the same page about this.  I've been on an 81mg/day regimen for decades and when I started I already believed aspirin is a wonder drug.


But I don't think that something that contains mostly good stuff but some that's inaccurate and potentially harmful  matches a doctor visit and/or a few minutes with the reference given in the discussion following the article I pointed to or with these sources  MedlinePlusWebMDPubMedCardioSmart.  Unless we've gone to Obamacare at its worst.


Maybe people don't know how to copy a URL and use it in an email to friends. 

Here's another reference that might be good to share:  Mayo Clinic on heart attacks at night.

Just checked.  Snopes, too, has weighed in on this one:  Snopes on Aspirin and Heart Attacks.

(Note the comment about Bayer's aspirin crystals.  And if they're wrong about that and told so, I'd expect that the reference to the article will show an update.)


It's not very hard to include a reference in an email.  Main thing is to select the whole thing by [multi]clicking and then use keyboard copy  -- rather than trying to type the whole thing somewhere by hand.  At that point you can just paste the ugly sucker into your email if you have yet to learn how to put it under something more readable.


Anyway, gotta go.  Keep up the great funny, risque, anecdotal, emails but the 'fact'-filled ones with no references --

maybe not so much!


   Regards,

     -Fred


    





Chuck Lugar


Jul 9

to me





Yes it has been around before but fire drills are recurrent too. The advice it contains is still valid. Oh, and Bayer is mentioned because the crystal form is from their research. Source may make it suspect, but it doesn’t in validated the message. If aspirin were discovered today, it would be $50.00 a tablet or more.

 

From: Frederick N. Chase

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:05 AM

To: Chuck Lugar

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Subject: Re: Fw: Good info to keep

 

Chuck,

The mention of a specific brand, Bayer, of acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) and several other things about this message set off my crap detector.

Sure enough, a little poking around found the following here .  From the Mayo Clinic's website, no less.


The comments include a URL to the Mayo Clinic's advice on the subject and a Clinic employee's statement

"In general, we do not recommend obtaining advice on medical treatment from chain mailings,especially when they are of uncertain origin."

 

It looks like this thing has been rattling around the internet for more than two years.


   -Fred





Misleading Aspirin Email


Posted on February 28, 2010 by Lee Aase

We have been informed of a recently circulated email regarding the use of aspirin, which included mention of Dr. Virend Somers and of Mayo Clinic. Neither Dr. Somers nor Mayo Clinic contributed to this email, which contains some information that is inaccurate and potentially harmful. We recommend that you speak with your physician if you have specific questions.

 

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Chuck Lugar <c.lugar@comcast.net> wrote:

 
 
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Subject: FW: Good info to keep
 

 

 


From: DELDEANNA@aol.com [mailto:DELDEANNA@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:54 PM
To: Kensus1952@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Good info to keep

 

Mayo Clinic On Aspirin

Dr. Virend Somers, is a Cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic, 
who is lead author of the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of 
the Journal of the American College of Cardiology. 

Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally 
between 6 A.M. and noon. Having one during the night, when
the heart should be most at rest, means
that something unusual happened. Somers and his colleagues
have been working for a decade to show that sleep apnea is
to blame.

1. If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day,
take it at night.
The reason: Aspirin has a 24-hour "half-life";
therefore, if most heart attacks happen in the
wee hours of the morning, the 
Aspirin would be strongest in your system. 

2. FYI, 

Aspirin lasts a really long time in your medicine chest 
for years, (when it gets old, it smells like vinegar). 

Please read on. 

Something that we can do to help ourselves - nice to know.
Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue. 
They work much faster than the tablets.

Why keep Aspirin by your bedside? It's about Heart Attacks - 

There are other symptoms of a heart attack, besides the 
pain on the left arm. One must also be aware of an intense 
pain on the chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating; 
however, these symptoms may also occur less frequently. 

Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack. 

The majority of people (about 60%) who had 
a heart attack during their sleep did not wake up.
However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from 
your deep sleep. 

If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth
and swallow them with a bit of water. 

Afterwards: 
- Call 911. 
- Phone a neighbor or a family member who lives very close by. 
- Say "heart attack!" 
- Say that you have taken 2 Aspirins. 
Take a seat on a chair or sofa
near the front door, and wait for their arrival and

...
DO NOT LIE DOWN! 


A Cardiologist has stated that if each person after 
receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one 
life could be saved! 

I have already shared this information. What about you? 

Do forward this message. It may save lives!